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Monday, April 16, 2012

Before I get into this post, I want to bring some folks up to date on UltimateDomme. To repeat what I posted over a year ago.. The real me on Collarme is MstressAriel. I know, now you're all disappointed that i'm really a middle aged broad and not the 24 year old hottie that is on the UltimateDomme profile.

I only mention it again because i've been getting asked quite a bit as to my real identity, and I fully understand people not wanting to read through this entire blog to find that information, so there is it again.

Well, I have another reason for posting that again. I've gotten one comment here on this blog, and another message on collarme that the UltimateDomme profile crashes their browser when it comes up. If that happens to you, let me know on the MstressAriel name. I'll delete and restart the account if need be.
 

Over the year and a half that i've been doing this blog, i've several times made mention of some of the various sites out there that are geared toward catching out fakes on Collarme.

The latest one is of course, Collarmefakes.com

I laugh at that site, just as I did at other sites of the same nature because they absurdly believe they're making some sort of difference, and providing a service to the kink community. They are not. All the fakes simply create new profiles and continue on their merry way. They're entertaining in much the same way as Nimbus and his collarmebusts website and the catchafake2 one. It was hilariously funny to see him on collarme after creating yet another new account after getting one deleted.

Actually it seems the active moderators on collarmefakes have something against collarme itself. Madman (One of the Super Moderators) posted in his "list of newest scammers!" post that he had a conversation with an admin of collarme who said they allow and promote the scammers because they get a cut of what they take in.

I'd LOVE to see the transcript of that particular conversation (If it actually happened) with a collarme admin admitting such a thing.

"Had a lengthy discussion with one of the Admins of collarme this morning. I learned that cm is promoting or allowing all of the above mentioned profiles as it receives a cut in the profit for the idjuts that actually pay money to the promoters of said profiles. So don't expect to see them go any time soon." <--- Madman on 2-21-2012.

Something like that should it be made public and proven to be true would go a long way toward getting that site off the Internet, don't you think? Exposing them as being in cahoots with the scammers would certainly be enough to really damage CM. It could very well even end in a courtroom if they were to be proven to be actively participating in a scam.

Do you believe that an Admin of Collarme actually told someone the above? I don't believe it for a second. In fact, that claim made on collarmefakes is very probably actionable. He posted that claim but made no attempt to back it up.
  
There's a definite agenda on that site and it's directed against CollarMe.

Collarme is a free, anonymous site to us the end users, and they make their money with those ads on the right hand of the screen, the minutes they sell on their movies section, and the products they sell in their bdsm gear section. Just look at the advertising section of the site, they get 325 dollars a week for a text ad and they are waitlisted on space for those ads. Even Fetlife has those ads and i'm sure they get paid for them just as collarme does.

Collarmefakes site's stated purpose even goes as far as to blame collarme for all the fakes and scammers who show up to create accounts on their anonymous site.(You don't have to give any information about yourself, much the same as Fetlife.) They've mentioned how CM deletes journals that have a list of fakes and what not. Collarme doesn't allow blacklists for the very simple reason as there is no accountability for the information contained in those lists. For that reason, when someone posts in their CM profile a link to the site that is there to provide such a blacklist, it is deleted. (Not just collarmefakes, does anyone remember Nimbus and his collarmebusts site? His user name kept getting deleted and he kept coming back with a higher number appended to his name.)

Oh, they can't stop you from creating a site to post your blacklists, but they certainly can stop you from advertising it on their site.

Now, i'm not just guessing at the reason CM doesn't allow blacklists.. Here's the actual post in their forums from 2007 expaining it.

"This issue comes up so often in posts by new members that we felt it necessary to make a special post about this one issue.  To be sure, there are all kinds of people in the world and, given that we (like other public websites) don't have the ability to dictate who joins our website, you will meet all kinds of people here; some very nice (like yourself), some not so much.   It is perhaps for this reason that new users are wont to post about their bad experiences with this or that person or even come up with the very original idea of making a list of all the "bad" users on the site.  As has been recounted countless times, the fundamental flaw with this idea is not that it is ill intended, it is that there is not, nor can there be, any fact checking of such claims.
 
If you still believe that blacklists are a good idea then consider the following thought experiment.  Suppose that someone made up a malicious and horrible lie about you and posted it to a blacklist on the forum.  Would you want us to take it down after you informed us of your innocence or would you be fine with us leaving it up despite your most impassioned pleas that the facts alleged about you were false?  It is a pretty safe bet that you would want those false claims removed in a hurry.  Now let us suppose that true claims are posted about a real jerk attesting to what a jerk he is.  Further suppose that this jerk approaches us with the same passion you did, demanding that the true assertions about him are false and must be remove immediately.  Both you and the other user come to us claiming passionately to be innocent but which one are we to believe?  When you know the answer to that question, you will know why blacklists are not permitted."

Also, many people make a big deal out of the fact you cannot write the word FETLIFE on your CM profile. Many of these same people think it's because CM is afraid of the "competition." But, while Fetlife is a free site to join, there is an "elite" or supporter's level that costs 5 dollars a month. And that my friends, makes Fetlife a pay site.. Guess what you cannot advertise on Collarme? That's right, paysites. It doesn't matter that you can do a lot for free, the existence of the supporter level makes it a paysite and Fetlife does not pay for advertising on Collarme.

The lack of accountability of blacklist sites came into question on the first major thread on the site. It was the thread with the huge list of people listed as fakes. The reason they were fake? They didn't answer messages. It was a piss poor reason which blonde2bebound (The other active super moderator) correctly pointed out in the thread called, "Multiples by names..... just for one month." (Point of interest, that was the thread that I originally mentioned when I first spoke of that site on this blog.It was my offer of a possible explanation as to why there was a sudden influx of domimant women viewing profiles.)

When further pressured as to the credibility of the information posted on the site, Madman came up with this mind boggling explanation.

"If we, as moderators, removed every post we thought was not credible, 95% of the posts that are here now would be gone. We, ourselves, could be taken as fakes or scams or that we were trying to promote the scams and fakes on cm. We rely on honesty and trust of others when they make these posts. Removing them would say we have no faith or trust in what this site is originally intended for." <--- Madman on 8-6-11

Seriously? 95% of the messages calling out fakes are not credible?

Well, that's what he said.. Of course that was immediately followed up by someone telling him failure to cull the not credible posts would put the site's credibility at risk. Clearly, this site was intended as nothing more than just another place to create blacklists. It even enouraged people to create fake profiles to go on collarme and direct people to collarmefakes.com 

Here's something from the very first post on this site by the person called patriarch on 5-1-2011

"How can you help?

1. Join the board and participate.
2. Post some fake profiles on collarme attracting people to the board, just like the one that bought you here. Goodness! Isn't that a little hyprocritical? Well perhaps... but we're not really faking anything. Here are links to some profile pics to get you started. dominant pic and submissive pic (Note: they have included photos of hot women with the collarmefakes.com addy on the photos.)
3. I'm also looking for moderators for this board, PM me if you're interested"

You've GOT to love the logic in #2..They're not really faking anything by creating fake profiles to attract people to your site. Umm.. errr.. Yeah okay then.

C'mon Man!


After that multiples thread came to a head on 8-9-11, a posting guideline was created. It's called "Please Read Before Posting" and remains at the top of the list as a stickie. It lists the various categories and who fits in these categories. But now we're told that along with the fakes and scammers, we can now post about "wanna-be" doms who don't know about the BDSM lifestyle, but we're NOT to post about submissives who are uneducated in the lifestyle. Hmm, you've got to love the double standard on that one.... Especially seeing as that criteria was posted by a submissive female who states on her collarme profile that she was looking for a master on the internet at the age of 12.

People who are just looking to get off are considered fakes, but financial dommes are not. I wonder if it matters that the vast majority of the financial dommes on CM are not the hot little princess shown in their photos? That one is pretty funny seeing as even the evil collarme doesn't allow financial dommes and deletes them regularily... Not allowed to ask for money on Collarme. Beyond that, someone with profile pictures that are not of them are a fake, that's pretty much the classic definition of a fake... Not being who they say they are.

Those who refuse to verify themselves are not to be posted there if that is the only reason they are being called out. Of course at the very end of the posting guideline post it tells you that the biggest fake claim destroyer is to have... (Wait for it)... an admin of THEIR site seeing you on webcam holding up a sign or something like that.

Failing to fully read someone's profile and messaging them will get that conversation posted on that site and the offending person will be labled as a fake dom, domme, or sub.

In other words, the wording had been changed, but the idea of what and who is a fake as far as that site is concerned is nothing more than the whim/opinion of the admin/moderators there.
  
Basically, the credibilty of a site such as that one is never going to be high, it can't be. On the other hand, the entertainment value can be there, which it very much is at times. That's not a knock, that's the best part of that site, seeing all the humor in those posts Blonde2bebound posts from the morons I can guarantee just about every woman on collarme has received their fair share of.

To be clear, I am not saying that you should stay away from collarmefakes.com... I'm just saying it's a funny site, and offers a heavy side helping of hyprocisy. Check it out for yourself if you'd like.


Right then, On April Fools day, there was a comment left here, on the 2-7-2012 post. (The post is titled, Umm, Hello?)

It's from someone who introduces herself as a "well known Pro Domme on CM, FL, and several other websites." However she chooses to remain anonymous as far as I am concerned because she's afraid i'll have a go at her profile... Yeah, can't say I blame her for THAT.

Anyway, the crux of this comment is to read me the riot act about the fake deaf lesbians I posted about in that post, and then the following post where I answered the guy's message to me on CM. 

It's a great (and long) comment, telling me all about how she knows the people in question in real life and how wrong and terrible I am for making fun out of them without knowing the facts. The comment is easily found, so there's no need to repost it here.

Errrr.. Mmmkay then.. Anyone who reads those profiles, (Well, Wendy x3 doesn't have an active profile on CM as of this writing.) can see for themselves just how full of shit those profiles are. All three of them are clearly the same person as can be seen by the writing/typing style they use.

(Strikingly similar to the writing style of the one posting that comment on this blog.. Just sayin'!)
Not to mention the message sent to me that I replied to was so full of holes that the evidence is overwhelming.

Just to post a disclaimer, I was not in ANY way making fun of deaf people. I was making fun of that asshole in Alberta pretending to be a deaf lesbian.

She goes on toward the end of the comment to say I posted what I did without any proof.

Umm, the "proof" is crystal clear for all to see in their profiles, and anyone is free to read them, as well as free to read what i've posted about the fake lesbians in question.. and come to their own conclusion.

Just as a point of interest, your comment does nothing at all to refute anything I posted, in fact if anything it only reinforces it.

Oh yes, I also made mention in the original post how someone who says they have no way to get photos onto their computer had a photo on her profile of that person holding an electronic camera. Guess what, they took that photo down.


Ah, and just a little shoutout to Tiffanytheslut. This is a profile we've seen many times in the past. Always a 19 female slave in Texas, always talking about how they are interested in hypnotism, and always with a blacklist with some of the names in hyperlink style she's approached and was shot down by.. But he calls them fakes. *giggle*

His new profile I think has the distinction of having the record of amount of tineye hits on his primary profile photo... 199. Hehehe.

Yeah, i'm on it again. But I brought it upon myself.. let me show you..

"tiffanytheslut on 4/14/12 at 9:34 PM:

 Hi my name is Tiffany I enjoyed reading your profile and think you are very beautiful. I am very sub seeking to become a real slave. I can travel and relocate. Please reply back ......Tiffany

 UltimateDomme on 4/14/12 at 9:53 PM:

 Heyyyyyyyy! What's up tiffany/stacey/beth and the other names you've used on this site? How the fuck have ya been ya old cockroach? You just run along fella, and don't forget to add me to your list of fakes :)

 tiffanytheslut on 4/15/12 at 3:18 AM:

 i have no clue what you are talking about ...you must be a fake

 UltimateDomme on 4/15/12 at 3:27 AM:

 LOL!!!! Oh that's fucking funny!

 tiffanytheslut on 4/15/12 at 3:39 AM:

 i have no clue who you are but you must be a fucking male..so fucky off loser dude"


Voila! Well, i'm done for now.. Y'all take care now... ya heah?

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